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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Carnivals and Bonfires Reply with quote

When is a Bonfire Night a Carnival and when is a Carnival a Bonfire Night and what right has a Carnival or Bonfire Society have to call itself a Bonfire Society and what excatly is a Bonfire Society and a proper Bonfire Night. Bearing in mind that some so called Bonfire Nights are put on by Carnival Societies and some Bonfire Societies are calling themselves Carnival Societies and some have Bonfires and Fireworks and some do not. Come out of the closet and decide what you are . . Carnival or Bonfire ? . . Chew on that boyes and belles and I will have a reply for all respondents !
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as there are bonfire boyes and belles and a good laugh (and beer!), who cares?

I prefer fireworks as I like watching them - simple as that.
A bonfire can keep you warm, but I don't always go anywhere near it.
I like the costumes, but stripes dont take away from the fun.
I "play" with bangers and flares, but not at every meeting.

I think personally, even without the history and tradition that lots of people (including me) quote as reasons to bonfire, I'd do it for the same fun if it called bonfire, carnival, parade, festival, pageant, Mardi Gras, whatever.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Bonfire is a traditional celebration to comemorate our historic past, in the form of period costume, historical customs and fire.

A Carnival is an articulated lorry, festooned in flowers and tack with a unhappy looking teenage girl dressed as a fairy looking as if she would rather be anywhere in the world but there and followed down the road by a bunch of clowns!

This does not reflect the opinion of anybody but myself but im sure in correct! Laughing

We love them all really........bring on the Bonfire / Carnival season!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghoti wrote:
As long as there are bonfire boyes and belles and a good laugh (and beer!), who cares?

I prefer fireworks as I like watching them - simple as that.
A bonfire can keep you warm, but I don't always go anywhere near it.
I like the costumes, but stripes dont take away from the fun.
I "play" with bangers and flares, but not at every meeting.

I think personally, even without the history and tradition that lots of people (including me) quote as reasons to bonfire, I'd do it for the same fun if it called bonfire, carnival, parade, festival, pageant, Mardi Gras, whatever.

That is your choice which is called feedom of choice or speech which is what bonfire celebrations are all about. Me personaly would like a bit o noise in the ranks, a bonfire and fireworks at the end.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A Bonfire is a traditional celebration to comemorate our historic past, in the form of period costume, historical customs and fire.

A Carnival is an articulated lorry, festooned in flowers and tack with a unhappy looking teenage girl dressed as a fairy looking as if she would rather be anywhere in the world but there and followed down the road by a bunch of clowns!

This does not reflect the opinion of anybody but myself but im sure in correct! Laughing

We love them all really........bring on the Bonfire / Carnival season!

My opinion follows the same lines . . They both can be good in their own way but I`ve marched as a bonfire boye and a bandsman in both and a real bonfire celebration wins hands down for me
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer the "true" bonfires but the early carnivals are cool as well, they're a taster of what is to come later in the season Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An old argument that will go on for ever I feel. They both have their own merits which can be good for both> I know some people see the earlier carnival's as not proper bonfire but netherless they can be enjoyable if you're with a like minded bunch of people.

Carnivals= floats, dancing girls, fun fairs, queens, princesses, princes etc. plus maybe a bonfire or freworks.

Bonfire = bonfires, fireworks and lots of noise with none of the above.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carnival or bonfire does it matter, as long as we have fun and enjoy ourselves.  we have gone over this tradition bit before.
whether you walk during rain or fine weather I hope you all enjoy yourselves this season.

you need a queen for a carnival Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mail man wrote:
carnival or bonfire does it matter, as long as we have fun and enjoy ourselves.  we have gone over this tradition bit before.
whether you walk during rain or fine weather I hope you all enjoy yourselves this season.

you need a queen for a carnival Laughing


I nominate you to be the queen !
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its very traditional and villagy
so v thinks floats are very traditionl Razz  
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rotherfield
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Its very traditional and villagy
so v thinks floats are very traditionl Razz  
The Question I am dieing to know has v got an answer to is own question Question  and if so what is it Question


Floats are very traditional for carnivals  Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good Luck To Mayfield Whom Are A Good Contender To A Real Bonfire Society Which Had Three Martyrs Burnt At The Stake . . We Be Out Soon x x

why are they a contender floats included Question  Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had Three Martyrs Burnt At The Stake
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Had Three Martyrs Burnt At The Stake


there are 21 celebrations you have jsut turned around and stated cannot be considered Bonfire thanks to your arguement


well i hope you have fun just going to 2 CELEBRATION NIGHTS (mayfeild and lewes) the rest of us will enjoy the other 21 bonfire carnival hybrids
We are all out to have fun and raise money for charity and if you don't like it take a rookie shine it up nicly, turn it sideways and........

OH and to be honest you are causing more bad blood and bad feelings than the police of the anti bonfire biggots put togeather
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooo Mayfield a toughie to as what you would want to class it as. Afterall they were founded way before the gunpowder plot, as a way of remembering the martyrs and coninue to do so to this day and also aghere to many of the bonfire traditions within Sussex. But then they do have them horrible floats.

I know alot of bonfire people out there class this one as the first real type of bonfire of the season and its the first one of the seson that they go to. Mainly to its setting and the fact it has all the ingredients of a proper bonfire.

So Mayfield i think you're more bonfire than carnival.



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