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| Ghoti |
Lewes - GeneralJust heard from the WBS lot the following:IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT THE FIFTH:! As with most things when it comes to the Police, these plans could change, if they do I will let you know ASAP. Darren. ROAD CLOSURES: - The statutory authorities have reviewed the crowd management arrangements for the Fifth and in their wisdom, despite our considerable objections have introduced an outer road closure. Roads will be closed at the following points at 5pm: • A27/A277 at the Kingston roundabout • C7/Wellgreen Lane Nr Kingston • A275/B2116 Offham Garage • Road into Church Lane/Malling Hill • Road into Lewes at Cuilfall Tunnel Roundabout No access will be allowed through the road closures by ANY VEHICLE after this time. It makes no difference if you are a society member, live there, work there or are visiting friends, they will not let you through. So, it is very important that all members are in town BEFORE 5PM!! Any later and you will not get in by vehicle. Our first procession is at 5:30pm so I hope this should not affect too many members. I can only say that we have done everything we can to try to prevent these road closures being put in place and are very disappointed that they are going ahead. How far is Offham Garage to Lewes Darren? 
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| forrest |
A long walk! Problem being there's bugger all anyone can do about what the police are doing. All the police need to do is qoute section whatever the number is, which means they can basically do what they want to stop you from getting to a certain destintation. Its the one they use alot at football matches and any big demo's to stop people from travelling, and its completely legal.
Good thing the Ouse isnt closed, boat from Lindfield to Lewes 
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| forrest |
Just had a thought. Looking at the road closure points, its looks like I can still get into town by the tunnel, as the road is closed from that point. Just meansa trek through Lewes which is got to be better than a trek from Offham | ||||||
| Ghoti |
My reading was that the road was closed at the roundabout on the bypass, not the other end. The problem you will have is how to get there! Down to the A27 via Brighton and along or right around Ringmer, Glynde and along. It is a hell of a way whichever. | ||||||
| Ghoti |
Darren,
Assuming you can get to the A27, how about being dropped off in the layby at the back end of Priory school. I think you can get across the playing fields and that will bring you out near the train station. Could be worth a look first though. |
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| Clunk |
Good thinking there Paul, there are laybys on both sides- one takes you past Southovers firesite, the other past the Cliffe shed and firesite. You'll definitely need a torch, I'm not sure how steep the embankments are either.
All that just to get in
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| forrest |
Has anyone seen the nice Lewes Bonfire leaflet produced by Lewes District Council re. all the road closures yet? According to the leaflet it says nothing about the roads being shut at Hamsey garage or earwig corner. If anyone would like a copy drop me a pm and I'll email one to you. | ||||||
| V |
From what I can gather its pretty much all gone back to plan A . . ie same as previous years . | ||||||
| Sussex Shadow |
not quite, when in previous years has there been such a wide area cordon of lewes that will be enforce for BOTH Visitors & Locals, it also says there are less trains being run in and out of lewes, So no its not quite the same also from the looks of it some societies may not make it (with work etc being a week day) and the shut off being 5 FOR EVERY ONE http://www.lewesbonfirecouncil.org.uk/advice/leaflet_09.pdf |
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| forrest |
Hence why at Lindfield we have seen an increase in visiting societies wanting to come this year. |
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| V |
Pushing a potential problem from one corner to another, Just have to wait and see how the world turns this year. The 5pm town closures look the same as other years as the processions start shortly after 5pm anyway but have to say the 7pm closures further out are different. 
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| Firecracker |
and the fact that you cant even get through the road closesures even if you live in Lewes  I would be furious if I was a resident 
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| forrest |
By the sounds of things listening to the radio at work today there are certainly a few unhappy residents of Lewes out there.
Could there be a backlash from the public against bonfire in Lewes? Maybe this was the idea in the first place by the authorities to stir up abit more anti bonfire feeling. Or am I just being a cynic? |
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| BonfireBoy |
I'd be peed off if I was a on bonfire type resident of Lewes being told I couldnt enter Lewes after 5pm and couldnt get my home. What hapens if you work say in Brighton/Haywards Heath/Newhaven and other surrounding towns and don't finish until 5pm and have a arse of a boss that won't let you finish work early? Simple answer is you're screwed! I can see this being one big screw up and back firing big time. Like Forrest says if it does you can see bonfire bearing the grunt of discontent.
Yes Forrest some may say you're being cynical, but its a valid point to have in mind. |
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| Firecracker |
I just hope the residents realise that it is not the bonfire societies that have done this
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| Snowflake |
I do feel so sorry for the residence of Lewes who are being inconvienced by these road closures. I hope that through the local newspapers or radio it is made clear that is was none of bonfires doing. No Forrest I do not think you are being cynical at all. One would think that for one night a year the powers that be would assist to keep such a tradition going.  
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| Ghoti |
The 5th looks like being warm and wet
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FR...;day=5&month=11&year=2009 Day Time Temp Rain Pressure Dir Speed Thu 5 Nov 1:00 14 °c 7.8 mm 998 mb [Wind from SSE (168°)] 2 mph Thu 5 Nov 13:00 14 °c 5.8 mm 1,001 mb [Wind from WSW (245°)] 4 mph With a wet couple of days before the firesites will be fun! That'll keep the crowds away even if the Police's plan fails. |
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| V |
Lol . . . The forecasters cant even guess the next day , yet alone two and half weeks time . .
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| The Plotter |
Im in the aviation industry and take it from me.....i wouldnt take any notice of the weather forcast until 3 days before. October and November can create some irratic low pressure systems that can go as fast as they come so i wouldnt bother looking til nearer the time! | ||||||
| V |
I 2nd that comment
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| FlamingTorch |
Yeah, it's tough on the residents, if they're not careful they'll have the roads all cleared but they'll be nobody at the celebrations except the police, everyone's drives will be empty too!
what's the best way to get into the town then? |
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| Firecracker |
We have details on all routes and road closures on our website including a map  www.lewesboroughbonfiresociety.co.uk
Hope it helps!
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| FlamingTorch |
thanks, is that different to the lewes bonfire council website? I've been trying to open their map but my adobe reader is playing up and i've had to re-install. EDIT: i've just realised it was a stupid question!! don't worry! haha. |
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| V |
We have space for 3 or 4 cars at ours if it helps | ||||||
| FlamingTorch |
Do you have to get tickets to commercial square or south street?
South Street's is earlier than the others isn't it. |
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| V |
u can pay on the gate . . unless ur walking with em then its free | ||||||
| FlamingTorch |
So am I right in thinking that you have to pay for all of them? Sorry for all the silly questions!! I've never been to lewes bonfire night before! |
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| Firecracker |
Waterloo and Commercial square dont charge, other than that I think we all do. Cliffe you have to buy in advance, all others you can pay on the gate. Boroughs you can buy for £3 from Nevill newsagents or Lewes Information Centre or £5 on the gate on the 5th. All are free to get into though if you are a member of a visiting society
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| FlamingTorch |
Great, thanks! As long as I can get in somewhere it's ok.
Is it possible to go to south street and then another after? or is that logistically/practically impossible? |
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| forrest |
It wouldn't be possible, not with all the crowds. |
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| V |
All the displays are roughly the same time . . You might be able to do south street then run across the road and watch waterloo . . Take some doing though | ||||||
| FlamingTorch |
Ok, I thought south street was somewhat earlier. |
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| V |
It is but you need to get from the railway land side of lewes to the malling side . . not saying its impossible in fact it is very doable but you will have to move pronto |
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| FlamingTorch |
Ok, thanks. I don't think I will attempt it! |
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